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We've been married for 15 years, pastored a church plant for 12 years, and have remodeled & flipped multiple houses! It's safe to say, we've learned a lot along the way! We are REAL people that have faced and are currently facing real life problems. Although we are far from perfect.... we'd love to help you solve your problems by sharing the solutions that we've found for ours. We can’t wait to have some fun, teach some super useful skills, and help other churches do ministry well!